sayantan76
07-08 02:46 PM
It all comes down to priorities. If someone's aim to have GC at any cost, he/she will do everything to get to the finish line -- i.e. 180 days past I-485. In my opinion, GC process should be part of life, and it should not hijack 100% of time of highly skilled professional. No wonder, we see so many posts where person is waiting for AC-21 so as to get rid of "blood-sucking employer". For a neutral person, both employee and employer are using system to suit their needs.
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
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The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
Some people will go the extent of using term "slavery", whereas, actually, their thought process is slaved to the GC process.
And, employers know this very well and try to use to their advantage.
>> have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them
You have described it very well. I have met many of such professionals while interviewing them for jobs. But, the reality is, these same professionals are scraed of their jobs being outsourced.
Some are simple cookie cutter prgrammers and compare themselves to reasearch scientists and technologically superior.
Another thing, I have noticed is that while on H-1B, vast majority of professionals claim that they are getting paid prevaling wages, but, on the other hand, they also claim they can make upto 50% more, if they had EAD or green card. Ironic! Isn't it.
You are right. These are the rules set by current EB immigration system.
With this so called "exploitation" by whole Employment Based Immigrations, these professionals turn blind eye to whole thing after getting Green Card. Afterall they are, rightly, professionals.
How many times we see any green card holder or citizen supporting fellow immigrants?
H1 does not care for F1.
EAD does not care for H1/F1.
GC holder does not care for EAD/H1/F1
Citizens wonder why immigration level is so high.
Taking a quote from MTV Roadies program, each professional (roadie) is alone and has to look after his own best interests.
.
The exchange between Chanduv and Desi3933 has been a refreshingly objective discussion and is a welcome change from the typical hyper-reactionary posts one sees more frequently in this forum.
One of the features of the fight for EB immigration reforms we all need to be cognizant of is - that most (99%) of the members are in this fight to solve an immediate personal problem (visa situation) in a timely manner - most of us are not in it because we believe it to be a cause larger than us and a cause that demands personal sacrifice - and hence the lack of collective passion (lukewarm responses to IV sponsored drives, donation efforts etc.)
While - many have tried to compare this cause to India's independence struggle or Gandhiji's movement in South Africa - but the fundamental difference is that in both these struggles - people who led the struggles led it at a personal cost (Gandhiji willingly gave away a lucrative career to take up the struggle and so did Nehru; Netaji Bose was a Civil Services Officer and gave it up) - even the vast majority of revolutionaries (Bhagat Singh et al) were college educated professionals who could easily have had nice careers in British India.........and therein lies the fundamental difference......not one of us would willingly give up what we have for this struggle - we are in it because we are stuck in a system and want some resolution.......as soon as our particular situation gets resolved...we move on....(maybe there are a few exceptions and hats off to these folks).........and hence Desi - the answer to your question why H1 does not care for F1 and EAD does not care for H1 and so on.......it is not a collective cause - it is just a collection of individual causes - thats all - we would be fooling ourselves if we had some other grandiose visions - calling this group a cause would be the same as calling passengers on a bus one group - they are in the same bus simply because they share a part of their journey - thats it
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kingnaga
10-04 12:46 AM
Don worry bros, we're gonna get it soo...n. waiting sucks, but better than not applying u no...
GKBest
10-02 11:27 AM
Hi everyone,
Iam a July 3rd filer and the moneyorders for me and my wife has been cashed on September 28th. We had send 2 moneyorders for $745. Waiting for the receipts to come. Hope all of you get your receipts very soon.
And what time? Hopefully, I will be in that box.
Iam a July 3rd filer and the moneyorders for me and my wife has been cashed on September 28th. We had send 2 moneyorders for $745. Waiting for the receipts to come. Hope all of you get your receipts very soon.
And what time? Hopefully, I will be in that box.
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Mahatma
08-12 10:15 AM
Please correct the following typo.
Instead of "my contribution..." (by the way it is continuing), please read "by contribution....."
I am uanble to keep pace with my thoughts and finger typing...and I have no patience to check typos....
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Instead of "my contribution..." (by the way it is continuing), please read "by contribution....."
I am uanble to keep pace with my thoughts and finger typing...and I have no patience to check typos....
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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krovvidiusa
08-15 12:58 PM
Mailed Date: 07/11/2008
Receipt Date: 07/15/2008
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Card production ordered.
Approved Date: 08/15/2008
Receipt Date: 07/15/2008
Application Type: I765, APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION
Current Status: Card production ordered.
Approved Date: 08/15/2008
deepakjain
05-08 05:53 PM
My Apologies if this seems a bit rude to you...
IV is specific for people those who are awaiting permanent residence...but looking at the recent set of events for those who are not in queue and are new here with just 2-3 years of stay in State....on H1B...
Following is happening and it has a reason...I know many of my friends who have been denied H1B, L1 extensions ..these are those people who have just started PERM...
EB2 dates moving to Jan 00 and other not under U, has a specific reason as well; quota is one reason but it is not the only reason in the current state...these is another means to make sure that those who are trying to get GC and other who are trying to stay for 6 years under H1B should be putup into a spot that the thought of leaving this place and ending up back home becomes a reality..
I am sure out of total 500K awaiting the GC process, will have now atleast a second thought of going back home...H1B and L1 under 6 years are now also being forced to return back....
IV is specific for people those who are awaiting permanent residence...but looking at the recent set of events for those who are not in queue and are new here with just 2-3 years of stay in State....on H1B...
Following is happening and it has a reason...I know many of my friends who have been denied H1B, L1 extensions ..these are those people who have just started PERM...
EB2 dates moving to Jan 00 and other not under U, has a specific reason as well; quota is one reason but it is not the only reason in the current state...these is another means to make sure that those who are trying to get GC and other who are trying to stay for 6 years under H1B should be putup into a spot that the thought of leaving this place and ending up back home becomes a reality..
I am sure out of total 500K awaiting the GC process, will have now atleast a second thought of going back home...H1B and L1 under 6 years are now also being forced to return back....
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shukla77
02-17 11:40 AM
I guess the reason most of the people are not contributing is because they do not see any strategy going forward. I am sure IV core is working hard on the issues but there is lack of clarity as an organization.When the bulletins come out and dates dont move forward significantly, people start with various ideas ranging from flower campaign to eliminating country cap to EB3 - EB2 portability to ....( Most of them die by the middle of the month).If we look at the past, contribution campaigns have been successful ( up to reasonable extent) when there is a favorable bill on the floor and people see some hope. I remember till last year there was a guy ( I think Chandu13 ) who tried to motivate people for contribution by calling them coward, lazy.....Believe me it never worked...
So I think it is time to get serious and have some synergy and that might motivate people to come forward, participate and contribute.
Good Luck.
So I think it is time to get serious and have some synergy and that might motivate people to come forward, participate and contribute.
Good Luck.
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mike_2000_la
06-05 05:10 PM
Is Lin for Lincoln, NB or something like that? Is one I-140 and the other I-485?
LIN is the prefix of the id number given to your application if you are applying to Nebraska service center, like WAC is for the california service center. it might possibly mean Lincoln,Nebraska.
I believe all 485(along with 765 and 131) applications should go to Nebraska service center after the bispecilization rule became effective. Not sure where the 140 application should go to though.
here is how you decipher the receipt number, be it from Nebraska,California,Texas,Vermont
LIN-03-123-5-0001
LIN - Service center,LIN for Nebraska,WAC for california,SRC for Texas and EAC for vermont
03 - the year 2003, it should be 07 for this year
123 - working days count from the start of the immigration year(immigration year starts in october i believe)
5 - Not sure what this number is, all i know is, it is 5 for all the 4 service centers
0001 - count of the applications received at this service center on the given day(in this case day-123). This can go from 0001 - 9999 but normally its about 2000-3000 application worst case 5000-6000 applications per day(not sure how they managed when 150,000 H1 applications came in one single day!)
Please correct me if i am wrong...
LIN is the prefix of the id number given to your application if you are applying to Nebraska service center, like WAC is for the california service center. it might possibly mean Lincoln,Nebraska.
I believe all 485(along with 765 and 131) applications should go to Nebraska service center after the bispecilization rule became effective. Not sure where the 140 application should go to though.
here is how you decipher the receipt number, be it from Nebraska,California,Texas,Vermont
LIN-03-123-5-0001
LIN - Service center,LIN for Nebraska,WAC for california,SRC for Texas and EAC for vermont
03 - the year 2003, it should be 07 for this year
123 - working days count from the start of the immigration year(immigration year starts in october i believe)
5 - Not sure what this number is, all i know is, it is 5 for all the 4 service centers
0001 - count of the applications received at this service center on the given day(in this case day-123). This can go from 0001 - 9999 but normally its about 2000-3000 application worst case 5000-6000 applications per day(not sure how they managed when 150,000 H1 applications came in one single day!)
Please correct me if i am wrong...
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yabadaba
05-09 02:14 PM
i was feeling a lil down too for the last cupl of days...responding to some of those posters/reading their comments on alipac really brought me down.
however i m feeling better now seeing the drama on immigration portal june visa bulletin thread...not that i am a drama monger.. but seeing drama between two professionals really spices things up.. why else are boxing and wwf interesting
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=247589
however i m feeling better now seeing the drama on immigration portal june visa bulletin thread...not that i am a drama monger.. but seeing drama between two professionals really spices things up.. why else are boxing and wwf interesting
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=247589
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bluemask
05-23 09:52 AM
Sent 2+10 emails.
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
Will call later and ask friends do the same thing.
Thanks IV!
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helpme1234
09-18 07:44 AM
My appl recvd at NSC on July 3 at 11:14 am by f heuifner anyone on the same boat
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techbuyer77
06-12 03:52 PM
what can u do if u still have no EAD after 3 months? Endless waiting?
Yes no more interim ead
Yes no more interim ead
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buddyinsd
08-25 04:38 PM
Not sure if its a BREAK or no Visa numbers...
There were a couple of approvals today from TSC by looking at the other site.But slowed down a lot. Maybe USCIS is taking a break this last week and preparing for the next month:)
There were a couple of approvals today from TSC by looking at the other site.But slowed down a lot. Maybe USCIS is taking a break this last week and preparing for the next month:)
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Alabaman
09-16 04:58 PM
Yes.
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
So why doesn't Bharat give you a GC? Funny. BTW everyone is not from Bharat. :D
We have thousands here. We take just 1000 people and if everyone contributes 100 dollars - its 100,000 dollars. Just an estimate for lawyer fees incase we get that far
We are from BHARAT. Its a loaded statement. WE dont lose.
TOGETHER WE STAND, TOGETHER WE STAND my brothers and sisters.
So why doesn't Bharat give you a GC? Funny. BTW everyone is not from Bharat. :D
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EB3_SEP04
08-08 07:20 PM
my EAD is still pending. but no lud on EAD cases. just a soft LUD on I-140 on 7/13. Very wired !!
GCCovet
GCCovet/Mahujam,
- How did you find out about the LUD?
- What is soft LUD vs. hard ?
- what are possible reasons of an LUD ?
Thanks in advance!
GCCovet
GCCovet/Mahujam,
- How did you find out about the LUD?
- What is soft LUD vs. hard ?
- what are possible reasons of an LUD ?
Thanks in advance!
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Caliber
05-01 08:55 AM
thanks akred for refering INA. I went through it now
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
This is good idea. But Family GC's have a wait queue of 10-15 years. Only immediate family members of Citizens does not have queue.
But this is a good point to note when our Lobbyists discuss with USCIS.
In I485 application "Part 2: App Type" Option b (derivative status for spouses and children)
is actually related to quota listed in INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] a - 2. (family quota)
and not to INA Sec. 203. [8 U.S.C. 1153] b - * (employment quota).
IV Core. Can something be done to highlight this issue in your conversation with authorities ?
This is good idea. But Family GC's have a wait queue of 10-15 years. Only immediate family members of Citizens does not have queue.
But this is a good point to note when our Lobbyists discuss with USCIS.
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Macaca
07-08 07:57 PM
Condi's statement
Dr. RICE: Well, this was a case in which for--at a certain point in time, we'd not filled the entire quota for these special immigrant visas. And made an announcement of that. But when they were filled, we had to cut it off at that point. There's a ceiling that's set every year and when that ceiling was reached, then we couldn't issue the visas any longer.
From New York Times Editorial
On Monday, the State Department announced that all 140,000 employment-based green cards had been used and no applications would be accepted.
Citizenship and Immigration Services, the definition of a hangdog bureaucracy, says the law forbids it to accept the applications.
Based on the above, I undersand that there is a law that forbids acceptance of AOS applications when the 140K quota is exhausted.
The following is AILA's response in New York Times Editorial.
The American Immigration Lawyers Association says this interpretation is rubbish.
I am very curious to see the immigration law that AILA calls rubish and is ignoring while filing the class action suite!
Dr. RICE: Well, this was a case in which for--at a certain point in time, we'd not filled the entire quota for these special immigrant visas. And made an announcement of that. But when they were filled, we had to cut it off at that point. There's a ceiling that's set every year and when that ceiling was reached, then we couldn't issue the visas any longer.
From New York Times Editorial
On Monday, the State Department announced that all 140,000 employment-based green cards had been used and no applications would be accepted.
Citizenship and Immigration Services, the definition of a hangdog bureaucracy, says the law forbids it to accept the applications.
Based on the above, I undersand that there is a law that forbids acceptance of AOS applications when the 140K quota is exhausted.
The following is AILA's response in New York Times Editorial.
The American Immigration Lawyers Association says this interpretation is rubbish.
I am very curious to see the immigration law that AILA calls rubish and is ignoring while filing the class action suite!
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CADude
10-12 03:31 PM
"PublicAffairs, CISOmbudsman" <CISOmbudsman.Publicaffairs@dhs.gov>
Can you please give some details on sending delivery notices to CIS Ombudsman office. Address ? Fax ?
Can you please give some details on sending delivery notices to CIS Ombudsman office. Address ? Fax ?
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priti8888
10-08 08:34 PM
First I-485 is triggered by an act of the applicant (he has to apply). So USCIS is never going to know whether an earlier applicant is still out there trying to file his application or not. In fact I would blame the entire retrogression on USCIS' attempt at FIFO which is scientifically impossible. It only results in wastage of visa numbers. In 2004 USCIS wasted 47000 visa numbers, in 2006 it wasted 10000 visa numbers. What USCIS could think of doing is just approve whoever is approvable. So the visa bulletin has only 2 possible values "C" and "U". If an earlier I485 applicant is stuck in name check then he should take appropriate action (writing to senators, FL, GWB or file WoM) and get his case adjudicated.
There are a lot of misconceptions about AoS. Let me write it here.
1. A visa number is not needed to get AoS adjudicated. A visa number is only required to file the application. But USCIS' stand is that visa number is required both while filing and adjudicating. This according to the statutes and regulations is not true and valid. If USCIS screwed up and delayed adjudicating your application that is their problem. According to statutes and regulations a visa number is only required at the time the application is filed.
2. Neither Statutes nor regulations call for any fbi name check. Remember FBI name check is different from criminal back ground check or finger print check. The name check is an arbitrary decision by FBI and USCIS and will not stand in any court of law.
3. An FBI name check was never called for by USCIS on AoS applicants. It was only required for naturalization applicants. FBI screwed up by sending every one's name through this dreaded name check and now claims that it has too many names to check.
4. If your AoS application is pending for more than a year file a law suit against USCIS because USCIS violated regulations 103.2(b)(18). According to this regulation if an investigation is pending for 6 months district director should review it. At the end of 1 year he should again review it. After that it has to be escalated to higher authorities. Trust me this never happens. Violation of regulations is a serious offense.
So FIFO will never happen because USCIS cannot control who will apply when. Second FIFO is really bad because USCIS then has to keep shuffling its visa numbers around. Instead if it just approves anyone who is approvable atleast visa numbers would get used.
Well said !
There are a lot of misconceptions about AoS. Let me write it here.
1. A visa number is not needed to get AoS adjudicated. A visa number is only required to file the application. But USCIS' stand is that visa number is required both while filing and adjudicating. This according to the statutes and regulations is not true and valid. If USCIS screwed up and delayed adjudicating your application that is their problem. According to statutes and regulations a visa number is only required at the time the application is filed.
2. Neither Statutes nor regulations call for any fbi name check. Remember FBI name check is different from criminal back ground check or finger print check. The name check is an arbitrary decision by FBI and USCIS and will not stand in any court of law.
3. An FBI name check was never called for by USCIS on AoS applicants. It was only required for naturalization applicants. FBI screwed up by sending every one's name through this dreaded name check and now claims that it has too many names to check.
4. If your AoS application is pending for more than a year file a law suit against USCIS because USCIS violated regulations 103.2(b)(18). According to this regulation if an investigation is pending for 6 months district director should review it. At the end of 1 year he should again review it. After that it has to be escalated to higher authorities. Trust me this never happens. Violation of regulations is a serious offense.
So FIFO will never happen because USCIS cannot control who will apply when. Second FIFO is really bad because USCIS then has to keep shuffling its visa numbers around. Instead if it just approves anyone who is approvable atleast visa numbers would get used.
Well said !
BrazilianCitizen
06-15 12:09 PM
Package received by Nebraska SC: June/4.
Check cashed: June/14 (it shows LIN# on the back).
Querying status using this number shows a receipt date of June/12!
Check cashed: June/14 (it shows LIN# on the back).
Querying status using this number shows a receipt date of June/12!
newbee7
07-07 08:23 PM
All officials have talked about processing 60k visas in a month to avoid visas going waste.
None was honest enough to say the unused visas expire on 09/30 NOT 06/30.
So, why the mad rush to give out all visas by 06/30?? We all know why..
None was honest enough to say the unused visas expire on 09/30 NOT 06/30.
So, why the mad rush to give out all visas by 06/30?? We all know why..
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