walking_dude
10-09 10:21 AM
People are so 'adjusted' to standing in the queue, they want to make the queue permanent for themselves, as well as others. Reminds me of a story where a gentleman asked for a boon from God to turn him 'blind in one eye' so that his neighbor, who asked God that he be given twice the first one asked, will be blind in both eyes!
What does ending 'Retrogression' have to do with PDs? If retrogression ends, it means everyone will get GC in 6 months to a year. Even those with earlier PDs benefit along with newer PDs. No one's left out (except for FBI name check which doesn't honor PD now anyways!). I can't understand why people have problem with that, when they have equal chances of getting Permanent along with others.
PDs are irrelevant for EB1, EB2 ROW etc. No one cares or probably even knows their PD in those categories. PD is comparable to Jail system to keep people locked up ( 'your time to get out has not come yet'). Making dates current is freeing everyone from this Jail together. But some people don't want it to happen. Arguments such as 'I spent 6-7 years waiting, others should also wait' is immature and childish. I can understand 5 year tots making such kiddish demands. It's sad to see mature grownups acting such childish manner. Some people have become adjusted so much to 'Retrogression System Jail' they never want it to end , like the way Mr. Red ( Morgan Freeman) is scared of leaving the jail in the 'Shawshank Redemption', as life without the jail (Retrogression) scares them!
There is a medical term to describe this mental condition 'Crab Mentality', which is often used to describe Alcoholics and Drug Addicts. Try to lift one single crab from a vessel full of crabs, other crabs will try their best to pull that one back. Same mentality is at play here - if I don't get it nobody else should get it. Don't you guys feel shamed to act so self-centered and selfish like crabs?
This is my last post on the subject. I've better things to do ( my chapter meeting, IV action items etc.) than waste time arguing with arm-chair pundits.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
What does ending 'Retrogression' have to do with PDs? If retrogression ends, it means everyone will get GC in 6 months to a year. Even those with earlier PDs benefit along with newer PDs. No one's left out (except for FBI name check which doesn't honor PD now anyways!). I can't understand why people have problem with that, when they have equal chances of getting Permanent along with others.
PDs are irrelevant for EB1, EB2 ROW etc. No one cares or probably even knows their PD in those categories. PD is comparable to Jail system to keep people locked up ( 'your time to get out has not come yet'). Making dates current is freeing everyone from this Jail together. But some people don't want it to happen. Arguments such as 'I spent 6-7 years waiting, others should also wait' is immature and childish. I can understand 5 year tots making such kiddish demands. It's sad to see mature grownups acting such childish manner. Some people have become adjusted so much to 'Retrogression System Jail' they never want it to end , like the way Mr. Red ( Morgan Freeman) is scared of leaving the jail in the 'Shawshank Redemption', as life without the jail (Retrogression) scares them!
There is a medical term to describe this mental condition 'Crab Mentality', which is often used to describe Alcoholics and Drug Addicts. Try to lift one single crab from a vessel full of crabs, other crabs will try their best to pull that one back. Same mentality is at play here - if I don't get it nobody else should get it. Don't you guys feel shamed to act so self-centered and selfish like crabs?
This is my last post on the subject. I've better things to do ( my chapter meeting, IV action items etc.) than waste time arguing with arm-chair pundits.
You must be one of those who is retrogressed and is hoping that somehow the Government will remove retrogression and you will be one of the lucky few who will magically slime through while there are others who were way ahead of you in the queue still waiting. Therefore I understand your anger whenever someone talks about honouring queues. It is human psychology. When we are at the beginning of a queue, we prefer that queues are honored and we are at the end of the queue, we wish we could somehow get to the beginning. There is no rocket science involved here. You are human too.
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gcisadawg
01-31 04:38 PM
In my opinion most people who are on H1 n IT with american companies, either got in there via OPT- H1 or H1 transfer.
That is very true! In very very extreme cases, you would find American companies recruiting directly from India for IT jobs! That may be like, one in 1000!
That is very true! In very very extreme cases, you would find American companies recruiting directly from India for IT jobs! That may be like, one in 1000!
vban2007
06-01 04:41 PM
Sent email... Thanks again
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english_august
07-09 04:59 PM
here's a writeup for reporters.
You might want to use the well formatted documents on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6248
They incorporate most of your arguments here.
You might want to use the well formatted documents on this thread
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6248
They incorporate most of your arguments here.
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chanduv23
07-08 11:23 AM
I agree. Since Employment based immigration is driven by Employer needs, employer has the bigger say.
Since the process is driven by Employer needs, whole immigration process depends on it. Is it fair from employee point of view? Most likely, not. But, thats how current laws are in place. Changing these laws are not easy, to say the least.
This is really a very unfortunate situation.
The big difference between EAD (for AC-21) and GC is that AC-21 employer has to provide supporting EVL document to continue pending I-485. Now, it is upto the applicant how he/she passes this information to the employer when he/she joins that AC-21 job.
Now, many would pass clear info to AC21 employer that they would EVL to support their GC process (I-485) and no other sponsorship is required. Now, its upto their mutual agreement on EVL. Employer is, within his rights, not to support or issue AC-21 EVL letter.
On the practical side, vast majority of employer have no issues with such EVL letters.
Big companies, of course, go with their legal team recommendation as their main purpose to run their business with least legal hassels.
It is two-way street. If employer is really good, employee will make extra effort on his job. IF employee is valuable (from employer's point of view), most employer will go extra mile to retain him/her. I have seen many such incidents in 12+ years of professional career.
There is, of course, work politics involved too. Bitching about co-worker, a$$ kissing, nepotism is part of it.
I have seen cases, where one team member is making 115k and another team member, at same role, is making just 85k. This may be unfair, but legal.
---------------
Life is not fair; get used to it. - Bill Gates
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
.
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponser.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
Since the process is driven by Employer needs, whole immigration process depends on it. Is it fair from employee point of view? Most likely, not. But, thats how current laws are in place. Changing these laws are not easy, to say the least.
This is really a very unfortunate situation.
The big difference between EAD (for AC-21) and GC is that AC-21 employer has to provide supporting EVL document to continue pending I-485. Now, it is upto the applicant how he/she passes this information to the employer when he/she joins that AC-21 job.
Now, many would pass clear info to AC21 employer that they would EVL to support their GC process (I-485) and no other sponsorship is required. Now, its upto their mutual agreement on EVL. Employer is, within his rights, not to support or issue AC-21 EVL letter.
On the practical side, vast majority of employer have no issues with such EVL letters.
Big companies, of course, go with their legal team recommendation as their main purpose to run their business with least legal hassels.
It is two-way street. If employer is really good, employee will make extra effort on his job. IF employee is valuable (from employer's point of view), most employer will go extra mile to retain him/her. I have seen many such incidents in 12+ years of professional career.
There is, of course, work politics involved too. Bitching about co-worker, a$$ kissing, nepotism is part of it.
I have seen cases, where one team member is making 115k and another team member, at same role, is making just 85k. This may be unfair, but legal.
---------------
Life is not fair; get used to it. - Bill Gates
Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose. - Bill Gates
.
Your perspectives go well beyond what an average immigrant thinks about the whole EB system.
I have seen people "NOT" being themselves and do everything at workplace ONLY because their GC is pending and they do not want to have issues with employer for the sake of GC.
In my opinion, which also complements urs, the whole employment thing - if viewed from the eyes of a common man - one whose immigration status is not tied up with employer, is completely different.
I have seen people facing cultural issues, community issues and a wide range of issues - such things get masked when one's focus is on the GC process, heck leave alone GC - people struggle for even getting h1b and maintaining it.
A lot of people I talk to who come fresh out of school or have 2 years of experience or so, think that they have certain skills and employers would not live without them - whereas it is THEIR struggle to maintain h1b and also work towards GC on long run. All this is nothing but lack of thought process that people must apply but will not because their primary aim is to work out a sponser.
I am not blaming an employee or employer for this but this entire EB based system is set up in that way.
ItIsNotFunny
06-13 07:53 AM
My attorney told me that they sent my case to USCIS through FEDEX overnight on 6th June. My check is not cleared from my bank yet. I am concerned about my RD. Any idea?
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amitjoey
07-09 04:34 PM
I sent the pdf and a write up to reporters in my local area.
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coolvigo
07-02 11:06 PM
I am all for it. Lets take this from Gandhiji's perspective.....
We can give flowers to everyone going inside the office.............
But I guess big question is who is going to do it...???
not everyone has time and live in the city.
We can give flowers to everyone going inside the office.............
But I guess big question is who is going to do it...???
not everyone has time and live in the city.
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r_mistry
02-05 05:00 PM
Hi,
I landed in July 06 in Toronto. Received my PR cards etc and then moved back to US and since then have not visited Canada.
Does anybody know how long one can stay out of Canada after landing? I heard some where its 2 years and some say its 3 years from the date you land.
Can somebody please clairfy that? or have any official ruling on that?
Thanks,
__________________________________
Filed I-485/EAD/AP - July 24th, 2007 - NSC
PD - Oct, 2005 - EB3 - ROW
I-140 approved - Dec 2006
EAD received - Oct, 07
FP done
AP - Wife's AP approved Jan 21st, 2008 - Self Pending
LUDS on I-140/I-485 in November and Early December (These LUDS are in addition to LUDS on I-485 when FP was done)
I landed in July 06 in Toronto. Received my PR cards etc and then moved back to US and since then have not visited Canada.
Does anybody know how long one can stay out of Canada after landing? I heard some where its 2 years and some say its 3 years from the date you land.
Can somebody please clairfy that? or have any official ruling on that?
Thanks,
__________________________________
Filed I-485/EAD/AP - July 24th, 2007 - NSC
PD - Oct, 2005 - EB3 - ROW
I-140 approved - Dec 2006
EAD received - Oct, 07
FP done
AP - Wife's AP approved Jan 21st, 2008 - Self Pending
LUDS on I-140/I-485 in November and Early December (These LUDS are in addition to LUDS on I-485 when FP was done)
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gondalguru
09-02 07:33 PM
Received the EAD cards today in mail for me and my wife.
Valid for 2 years.
Applied at TSC with RD of July 7th.
Valid for 2 years.
Applied at TSC with RD of July 7th.
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rk07
09-20 10:11 PM
Hi,
Are there any one who filed at NSC on July 23rd and not received the receipt so far?
Thanks,
-rk.
Are there any one who filed at NSC on July 23rd and not received the receipt so far?
Thanks,
-rk.
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BharatPremi
11-01 05:44 PM
:D:Di work for big company...and i have paystubs...
in essense...what you are saying is that if one has paystubs that one can change after the 180 day period even if 140 is not approved...
i am beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel...:D
in essense...what you are saying is that if one has paystubs that one can change after the 180 day period even if 140 is not approved...
i am beginning to see light at the end of the tunnel...:D
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rick_rajvanshi
07-22 01:19 AM
Hey guys
My PR card in Canada was not issued; they rejected the photos I submitted with the original application. Now they're asking I submit new ones in PERSON!
I will need to get a Canadian Travel document now to re-enter Canada now. Does anyone know how long it takes to get that issued?
Plus, Since I'm using AP as well the whole re-entering the US with the Canadian Visas in my passport is once again an issue. I'm considering giving up on the PR card, since I've technically already completed my landing; I can re-apply for the PR card if and when I decide to move to Canada permanently. Can you guys advise?
-thanks.
I suggest you not to go back for pictures - You can get your cards when you decide to move permanently. Till then , if you need to travel to Canada you can do so only by road ( your own or rental car ) by showing your passport and landing docs. If you want to use any airlines , you 'll have to apply for travel docs at the nearest consulate.
Rest assured, you can get your card when you finally decide to land. It 'll not be complicated. Just approach the CIC center and file for fresh PR Card with some attested documents.
My PR card in Canada was not issued; they rejected the photos I submitted with the original application. Now they're asking I submit new ones in PERSON!
I will need to get a Canadian Travel document now to re-enter Canada now. Does anyone know how long it takes to get that issued?
Plus, Since I'm using AP as well the whole re-entering the US with the Canadian Visas in my passport is once again an issue. I'm considering giving up on the PR card, since I've technically already completed my landing; I can re-apply for the PR card if and when I decide to move to Canada permanently. Can you guys advise?
-thanks.
I suggest you not to go back for pictures - You can get your cards when you decide to move permanently. Till then , if you need to travel to Canada you can do so only by road ( your own or rental car ) by showing your passport and landing docs. If you want to use any airlines , you 'll have to apply for travel docs at the nearest consulate.
Rest assured, you can get your card when you finally decide to land. It 'll not be complicated. Just approach the CIC center and file for fresh PR Card with some attested documents.
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javadeveloper
07-20 09:12 PM
IF you are in such a big hole, you will have to come forward and work for yourself. We want others to work for us and solve our problems. That is my issue here. With 11.25 K EB3 members we would have still collected quarter million bucks.(@ 25$/person) If EB3-I does not care for itself, why would anybody else give a damn? (PS : I did contribute for the drive as I want everybody's issues with respect to GC resolved, not just mine)
So, the original post still stands true.
Problem was ours (EB2 & EB3) and we fought together until EB2&EB3 dates were retrogressed.Now the problem is only for EB3s so EB3s only have to come forward and work for ourselves. Thank you Sir...
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
So, the original post still stands true.
Problem was ours (EB2 & EB3) and we fought together until EB2&EB3 dates were retrogressed.Now the problem is only for EB3s so EB3s only have to come forward and work for ourselves. Thank you Sir...
What I am saying is we(EB2&3) will fight together and you are saying that It's your problem and you(EB3) have to work for yourself.So do we have to start a new community called eb3immigrationvoice?
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ksiddaba
07-03 12:50 AM
If you can make a concerted effort and we can ensure a large number of people will actually send the flowers, it would make a great media story. A wonderful splash on the media pages. American media will eat it up. Then get one of the IV core members to actually go on the air and explain the problem.
It's really not a bad idea.
It's really not a bad idea.
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test101
07-09 11:29 AM
I just PM . There is a report from washington post who is trying to do a story about the flower campaingn.
Story for the Washington Post
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Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
Story for the Washington Post
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Hi all,
I'm a reporter with the Washington Post. If your efforts result in Emilio Gonzalez receiving hundreds of flowers tomorrow, I would very much like to do a story on it. If you're interested in speaking with me and telling me your story and why you've decided to participate in this demonstration, please give me an email or call me. My contact information is below.
Thanks!
Xiyun
email:yangx@washpost.com
office phone: 202 334 6701
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ilwaiting
10-05 01:04 PM
If Reps win CIR might not pass at all. Since border Fence bill is passed now it shows Reps want a border security only bill. Remember Senate was opposing to a border security bill First? What happened now. America raised voice about it. And congress reacted by passing it.
If Dems win we stand a chance that CIR would be debated. Few legals provisions would squeezed into this CIR bill(which is maily for undocumented and ag worker). However its important that Dems take control of both senate and house.
Ont he flip side if Reps will, atleast there is a possiblity that SKIL bill might pass. that would help us.
If Dems win we stand a chance that CIR would be debated. Few legals provisions would squeezed into this CIR bill(which is maily for undocumented and ag worker). However its important that Dems take control of both senate and house.
Ont he flip side if Reps will, atleast there is a possiblity that SKIL bill might pass. that would help us.
skalra
02-05 05:58 PM
Does anybody know how long one can stay out of Canada after landing? I heard some where its 2 years and some say its 3 years from the date you land.
And that time does not have to be continous. You can do cycle of 6 months in Canada 1 year outside outside and it will still count to 2 years by end of 5 years, or you can do just last 2 years of those 5 years.
And that time does not have to be continous. You can do cycle of 6 months in Canada 1 year outside outside and it will still count to 2 years by end of 5 years, or you can do just last 2 years of those 5 years.
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